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Yeah, if that's your general expectation for stab and you actually think stab sucks, good luck doing ANYTHING else on this game.

Heh, it one of those inside jokes that doesn't carry over well to people that have no idea what is going on. The amount of times I stab people to crit/clumsy 6-7 times in a row in pk is well known on LS. It was a joke, nothing more. We can all relax a little now.

Cancelled.
Orino tries to slash *Rudra*, but he deflects the blow.
[k h.dark]
You barely hack *Dimst*'s left leg.

* R HP:Battered MV:Strong - an angry ogier warrior: Scratched - Dimst: Hurt > [bash ]

-=+
An angry ogier warrior tickles Dimst's body with his strike.
An angry ogier warrior has arrived from the west.

**+=-
*Dimst* panics, and attempts to flee!


*Dimst* leaves west.
Suddenly *someone* places something in your back!
You are dead! Sorry...
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
You stop following Corath.

Yeah, all they were doing was fleestabbing...looks like they finally got lucky. That crap is getting old, as is ds pk being 3/4 rogues.

+1.
Sucks to try to pk with from my side too.

nobody was fleestabbing nobody



we hit them TS and I went in hide;ba human (force of habit) if that didnt work after 2-3 ba xxx I engage. Just so happen it rolled and I let it rolled. was not planned



* S HP:Scratched MV:Strong > r

*Orino* tries to slash Whelk, but he parries successfully.

* S HP:Scratched MV:Strong > p
Dimst barely smites *Corath*'s right hand.
[hide ]
You attempt to hide yourself.

* S HP:Scratched MV:Strong > [ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Scratched MV:Strong > p
A shrill piercing scream reverberates through the area.
An angry ogier warrior joins Corath's fight!
An angry ogier warrior joins an angry ogier warrior's fight!
An angry ogier warrior joins an angry ogier warrior's fight!
An angry ogier warrior tickles Dimst's body with his strike.
An angry ogier warrior tries to strike Gorigo, but he parries successfully.
An angry ogier warrior tries to strike Whelk, but he parries successfully.
*Corath* blasts Dimst's left arm very hard.
Dimst smites *Corath*'s right leg.
Whelk tries to pierce *Orino*, but he deflects the blow.
*Orino* tries to slash Whelk, but he parries successfully.
Gorigo tries to pierce *Saif*, but he deflects the blow.
*Saif* tries to hack Gorigo, but he parries successfully.
Whelk assumes a defensive striking posture.
Gorigo panics, and attempts to flee!
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Scratched MV:Strong >
Whelk panics, and attempts to flee!

* S HP:Scratched MV:Strong >
*Corath* panics, and attempts to flee!
Whelk leaves north riding a shadow stallion.

* S HP:Scratched MV:Strong > p

*Corath* leaves north riding a warhorse.

Gorigo leaves west. trong >
[ba h.human]
You silently approach your victim...

-
An angry ogier warrior leaves north.
An angry ogier warrior leaves west.

=
*Orino* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow.
*Saif* barely hacks Dimst's left leg.

+
An angry ogier warrior tickles Dimst's body with his strike.
An angry ogier warrior has arrived from the west.

+
Dimst panics, and attempts to flee!


Dimst leaves west.
*Saif* makes a strange sound as you place a dagger of green jade in his back!
*Saif* is dead! R.I.P.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel tighten around you.
You receive your share of experience...
Oh, much better the second time around.
Your blood freezes as you hear *Saif*'s death cry.

I imagine it is just the natural development. Moves is the biggest malus for stabbers, but the trolloc race gets a moves bonus so the rogue class kind of loses the biggest malus they have, making it pretty attractive to play it, since the only malus you'll be facing is a tad lower defense and a little lower ob which is still pretty good with str teas being so available as they are. Think my 17 str thief pulls around 165 ob and with teas that is a 10? ob boost, which isn't that bad at all. Also being dismounted they don't suffer from the mounted db malus so a 19 dex trolloc thief in a dodge kit, without jcuffs, inky/gown can still do a 137-138 db which is pretty nice.

Probably also the reason why so many wolfbrothers play stab instead of bashing setups, knowing just the basic things about their bonuses, it seems the clan is perfect for stab and not really any decent at bashing setups as they don't get any ob compensation for being disounted, besides stab being a way of oneshotting some guy instead of having to go through bashing/chasing him.

Also to Rudra, if you have a 3-4 stabbers running around and running timers, I'd still consider it flee/timestabbing, intentional or not.

tru only thing was that we were grouped since we had beat them allw elbow and they ran TS and we went to finish them off since they were low. we hit TS to melee them down , just so happened I rolled a stab

ah I imagine Trik was just talking about the PK today and not this particular incident.

Aang arrives in the early 2000s in a bright flash of light.

* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > s
s
A Winding Road
[ obvious exits: N E S ]
South:
r
* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > p
Ryak narrates 'going dustyish'
A Winding Road
[ obvious exits: N E S W ]
*Konner* is here, fighting Tempest, riding a |1|.bloodstock stallion.
*Koagan* is standing here, riding a |2|.bloodstock stallion.
Tempest the Craven Weakling is here, fighting Konner.

* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > [hide ]
You attempt to hide yourself.

* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > *Koagan* blasts Tempest's right foot extremely hard.
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > p
*Konner* barely pierces Tempest's left arm.
Tempest tries to pierce *Konner*, but he deflects the blow.
Tempest panics, and attempts to flee!
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > ,

Tempest leaves south.

* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > [ba h.raspen]
Backstab who?

* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > p
[ba h.human]
You silently approach your victim...

-
*Koagan* leaves south riding a bloodstock stallion.
*Konner* leaves south riding a bloodstock stallion.

+
Tempest narrates 'nods'

*
Backstab who?

* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > s
r
A Winding Road
[ obvious exits: N W ]
Tempest the Craven Weakling is sitting here.
*Konner* is here, fighting Tempest, riding a |1|.bloodstock stallion.
*Koagan* is here, fighting Tempest, riding a |2|.bloodstock stallion.

p
* S HP:Scratched MV:Tiring > *Koagan* blasts Tempest's body very hard.
*Konner* tickles Tempest's body with his pierce.
[hide ]
You attempt to hide yourself.

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > [ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > ,
p
[ba h.raspen]
Backstab who?

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > [ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > p
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > p
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > p

*Koagan* blasts Tempest's left arm into bloody fragments!
*Konner* disarms Tempest's weapon with one swift strike.
*Konner* pierces Tempest's body.

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > [ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > p
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > p
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > p
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > p

*Koagan* blasts Tempest's body very hard.
*Konner* swiftly dodges Tempest's attempt to hit him.
*Konner* barely pierces Tempest's body.

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring >
Tempest panics, and attempts to flee!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > *Konner* tries to pierce Tempest, but he parries successfully.
[ba h.human]
Backstab them?!? They are in the throes of battle!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > p

Tempest leaves west.

[ba h.human] ing >
You silently approach your victim...

*
*Koagan* tries to blast you, but you deflect the blow.

*
*Koagan* tries to blast you, but you deflect the blow.


*Konner* makes a strange sound as you place a dagger of green jade in his back!
*Konner* is dead! R.I.P.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel tighten around you.
Oh, much better the second time around.
Your blood freezes as you hear *Konner*'s death cry.

Road Before Falme
The road becomes broad and hard packed as it crosses the plains before
Falme. The smell of saltwater and other less savory seaport smells reach
your nose when the breeze stirs. To the west is the town gate of Falme, to
the north and south are grassy fields, and to the east lies the road up
into the hills of Toman Head.
[ obvious exits: N E S W ]
East: A brute of a creature guards the area, ready to rip into strangers.
West: The corpse of a raven is lying here.
A young Morat'torm carries out the orders of his superiors.
A morat'raken holds tight to the reins of his flying beast.
A massive three-eyed reptile gazes at you.
A young Morat'torm carries out the orders of his superiors.
A morat'torm is never far from his massive beast.

* S HP:Battered MV:Strong > You attempt to hide yourself.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring > A master of scouts bellows 'Wobor was spotted in Falme Road'

Yanai has arrived from the west, riding an armoured black stallion.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring > Backstab who?
backstab h.human

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring > Backstab who?
backstab h.human

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring >
*Benjen* has arrived from the east, riding a warhorse.

You silently approach your victim...


*Benjen* leaves east riding a warhorse.

-
Yanai leaves south riding an armoured black stallion.

*
*Benjen* has arrived from the east, riding a warhorse.

-
*Benjen* struggles to barrel down on you, a partisan bearing the arms of Ghealdan aimed at your chest.

+
*Edmund* has arrived from the east, riding a warhorse.


*Benjen* makes a strange sound as you place a dagger of green jade in his back!
*Benjen* is dead! R.I.P.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel tighten around you.
Your first time! Was it good for you too?
Your blood freezes as you hear *Benjen*'s death cry.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring >
*Caela* has arrived from the east, riding a warhorse.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring >
*Caela* leaves south riding a warhorse.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring >
*Edmund* leaves north riding a warhorse.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring > get all corpse

*Caela* has arrived from the south, riding a warhorse.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring >
Ares narrates 'I gate'

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring >
*Caela* tries to slash you, but you parry successfully.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring - Caela: Wounded > nar benjen rip
You get a set of riveted chainmail leggings from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a pair of lissome leather boots with metal capped toes from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a set of darkly dyed leather leggings from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a small purse from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a brightly-colored sash from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a partisan bearing the arms of Ghealdan from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a silver etched shield from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a silver Kandori wristcuff from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a silver Kandori wristcuff from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a sturdy pair of full leather gauntlets from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a pair of dyed leather armsleeves from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a backpack from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a cloak of fine, black wool trimmed in scarlet from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a studded leather jerkin from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a shimmering chain of gold from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a shimmering chain of gold from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a thick helmet of supple leather from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a jade signet ring from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a jade signet ring from the corpse of Benjen.
You get a lantern from the corpse of Benjen.

* S HP:Battered MV:Tiring - Caela: Wounded > You narrate 'benjen rip'

always so dumb when team doesn't loot.

Not really an Ouch as in HP's. But an ouch for his mob missing this bash..... Could've been a big ouch if I got bashed/or bricked.



* R HP:Battered MV:Winded > ckOn the Wooden Bridge
A small wooden bridge spans over the thirty foot wide river. The railing is
in some places broken as if nobody has maintained this bridge for quite
some time. The water underneath runs placidly westwards. Sharp rocks break
the surface of the somewhat shallow river, spraying with white foam.
[ obvious exits: N E S U ]
A warhorse is here, stamping his feet impatiently, being ridden by you.

* R HP:Batteredtrack
- = + * * + =
Some obvious fresh tracks of a Horse leaving north.
Some obvious fresh tracks of a Humanoid leaving north.

* R HP:Battered MV:Winded > nar he ad pat
disYou narrate 'he ad pat'

m
s* R HP:Battered MV:Winded > tat
You stop riding him.

* HP:Battered MV:Winded > sneYou are a 35 year old female seanchan rogue.
Your height is 5 feet, 5 inches, and you weigh 135.0 lbs.
You are carrying 0.0 lbs and wearing 44.3 lbs, peanuts.
Your base abilities are: Str:19 Int:15 Wil:14 Dex:19 Con:18.
Offensive bonus: 145, Dodging bonus: 84, Parrying bonus: 143
Your mood is: Wimpy. You will flee below: 100 Hit Points
You are wanted by: Andor Red Eagles
Your armor absorbs about 63% on average.

You are subjected to the following effects:
- STRENGTH
- NO QUIT

* HP:Battered MV:Winded > ak

Ares narrates 'ad'

* HP:Battered MV:Winded > n
Ok, you'll try to move silently for a while.

* S HP:Battered MV:Winded > nA Curve in the Road
The road of hard packed dirt curls itself through the high grass, and small
thickets of trees that scatter Almoth Plain, to the north and east. A small
hill can be seen towering to the east, the road curving around by its base.
[ obvious exits: N E S ]
A large plains bear smells the air for prey.


* S HP:Battered MV:Winded > On a Small Hill on Almoth Plain
A small hill rises up in the middle of the grasslands giving a great view
over the area. A wooden bridge can be seen to the south spanning over a
wide river. Far in the east the jagged peaks of the Mountains of Mist can
be seen. A few spots of bare dirt gives the impression that there used to
be an old road curving through the plain. Now though most of the old road
is overgrown by the sea of grass.
[ obvious exits: N E S ]
A spotted hunting cat is here.
A large plains bear smells the air for prey.
A large plains bear smells the air for prey.
A large plains bear smells the air for prey.
A black maned lion is here, tail twitching.
A spotted hunting cat is here.
A black maned lion is here, tail twitching.

n
* S HP:Battered MV:Winded > h
m
On Almoth Plain
The everlasting sea of grass continues miles in every direction. The only
breaking in the landscape are small clusters of trees that are scattered
around the area. Somewhere to the south a small hill rises above the plains.
There seems to be a small waterhole to the east.
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A member of the Civil Watch stands guard warily.
*Edard* is resting here mending a weapon, riding a Domani razor.
An eager Domani soldier stands ready, riding a roan charger.
An eager Domani soldier stands ready, riding a roan charger.
An eager Domani soldier stands ready, riding a roan charger.
A Domani patrol commander stands alert to danger, riding a roan charger.

* S HP:Battered MV:Winded > [hide ]
You attempt to hide yourself.

* S HP:Battered MV:Winded > You silently approach your victim...
*Edard* gives a member of the Civil Watch an order.
A member of the Civil Watch tries to blast you, but you parry successfully.


*Edard* gives a member of the Civil Watch an order.

-f = +
*Edard* gives a member of the Civil Watch an order.

[0; *
*Edard* gives a member of the Civil Watch an order.

* + = - -
*Edard* gives a member of the Civil Watch an order.

=
You dodge a bash from a member of the Civil Watch who loses his balance and
falls!
*Edard* gives a member of the Civil Watch an order.

+ *
*Edard* makes a strange sound as you place a sharp, red stone dagger in his back!
*Edard* is dead! R.I.P.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel tighten around you.
You receive your share of experience...
Three times is the charm!
Your blood freezes as you hear *Edard*'s death cry.

* S HP:Battered MV:Winded - a member of the Civil Watch: Scratched > v
nar rip edard
[take all
corpse]
You get a pair of thick metal boots from the corpse of Edard.
You get a pair of ebony-steel plate greaves from the corpse of Edard.
You get a studded leather belt with a crossed swords buckle from the corpse of
Edard.
You get a pair of heavy metal gauntlets from the corpse of Edard.
You get a pair of ebony-steel plate vambraces from the corpse of Edard.
You get a backpack from the corpse of Edard.
You get a shining steel breastplate from the corpse of Edard.
You get an opal choker of fiery blue and pink beauty from the corpse of Edard.
You get a strange, insectoid helm from the corpse of Edard.
You get a ring of silver from the corpse of Edard.
You get an oilstone from the corpse of Edard.
You get a crystal lightstick from the corpse of Edard.

* S HP:Battered MV:Winded - a member of the Civil Watch: Healthy > Ares has
arrived from the south, riding a warhorse.
You narrate 'rip edard'

Ouch. Guessing Ed had zero moves, so couldn't stand up and engage. Always feels nice though (being the stabber, not the stabbee )

erm was watching simpsons i looked back from the tv just as the missed bash went off had no time to stand and hit her fun pk tho

o S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > [ba h.human]
Backstab who?

o S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring > e
h
In the Foothills
[ obvious exits: E W D ]
Venum the Sadistic Smasher {Al'ghol} is sitting here.
*Icdem* is here, fighting Venum, riding a gray palfrey.


You attempt to hide yourself.

[ba h.human] ing >
You silently approach your victim...


*Icdem* blasts Venum's head.

+
Venum looks at *Icdem*.

-
Dimst has arrived from the east.

+
Dimst tries to slash *Koy*, but he deflects the blow. <----------NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

*
You can't backstab a fighting person, too alert!

* S HP:Healthy MV:Tiring >
Suddenly *someone* places a golden tree hilted crystal dagger in your back!
You are dead! Sorry...
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
Ouch! You lose a level.

hide
backstab h.alacard
Old Road
[ obvious exits: N S ]
There are some bloody traces of a human leaving north.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving south.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving south.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving south.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving north.
*Alacard* is standing here.

* S HP:Critical MV:Winded > You attempt to hide yourself.
*Alacard* leaves south.

* S HP:Critical MV:Winded > Backstab who?

* S HP:Critical MV:Winded > s
hide
backstab h.alacard
Old Road
[ obvious exits: N S W ]
There are some bloody traces of a human leaving north.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving south.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving south.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving north.
There are some tracks of an animal leaving south.
*Alacard* is standing here.
A wild stallion bucks madly.

* S HP:Critical MV:Weary > You attempt to hide yourself.

You silently approach your victim...

=
*Alacard* starts riding a wild stallion.

+
A wild stallion seems too exhausted to obey *Alacard*'s commands.

=
*Alacard* struggles to barrel down on you, a dark blue tasseled spear aimed at your chest.

+
Your heartbeat calms down more as you feel less panicked.


*Alacard* makes a strange sound as you place a sharp, red stone dagger in his back!
*Alacard* is dead! R.I.P.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel tighten around you.
Your first time! Was it good for you too?
Your blood freezes as you hear *Alacard*'s death cry.

Hehe, and this is one of the occasions where you actually yell 'NOOOOOOOOO!' irl. I know it well